Raising the rear
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Brainstain
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77mali
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Joe73
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Raising the rear
If I want to raise the rear an inch or two, is it a matter of replacing the shocks or do I have to replace the rear springs too?
Shaunaconda- G3GM Member
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If the rear shocks are blown out, new ones would help a little but I doubt it could make up 2". If you wanna go cheap they sell spacers on eBay for all those DONK guys that like to put 30" rims on stuff.
Brainstain- Donating Member
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Springs are your ride height. Shocks dampen the bumps. Yes, gas filled shocks will raise the rear slightly but thats not the right way to do it. Just grab new springs.
Joe73- Donating Member
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Yes new springs will do the trick, over 40 years they sag down alot. Moog sells a new spring assembly with variable rate, worked out nicely in our 69 elcamino
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BlackChevelleSS- Management
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I put bigger springs on front and rear
1973 454 MONTE- Donating Member
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SPRINGS....
I had to replace the springs on my '77 sedan as it had the low-rider look with the cross member sitting about 3" off the pavement, and with 6 people on board it hit bottom and stayed there.
New HD springs all the way around picked it up a good 2-3" over the sagged originals. If I had to do it again, I'd still keep the HD springs up front to help with bottoming out, and put the softer standard springs in the rear. But then I like a smooth ride. The HD springs makes it a bit bouncy. I do have new shocks all the way around.
I had to replace the springs on my '77 sedan as it had the low-rider look with the cross member sitting about 3" off the pavement, and with 6 people on board it hit bottom and stayed there.
New HD springs all the way around picked it up a good 2-3" over the sagged originals. If I had to do it again, I'd still keep the HD springs up front to help with bottoming out, and put the softer standard springs in the rear. But then I like a smooth ride. The HD springs makes it a bit bouncy. I do have new shocks all the way around.
texan01- G3GM Member
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The rear springs are easy to replace ( compared to the front). With the shocks un-bolted on the bottom end, you can jack the body up enough to switch the springs. Good time to replace the shocks too if needed.
A word of caution: when you jack the body up from the rear end, with the shocks un-bolted, pay attention to how much the rear brake hose is getting tight while jacking. You should have enough slack in the hose to R&R the springs.
A word of caution: when you jack the body up from the rear end, with the shocks un-bolted, pay attention to how much the rear brake hose is getting tight while jacking. You should have enough slack in the hose to R&R the springs.
pila- Donating Member
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Well I had all four shocks replaced and variable rate springs installed on the rear last week. It looks and feels better, but I'd still like it a bit higher in back. The shop that did the work said that they could put air shocks on it and it would work. Just wondering if this would be a good idea?
Shaunaconda- G3GM Member
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I wouldn't. My recommendation would be to add spring spacers. Not the kind you wedge between the coils, but the kind that goes between the spring and rear end housing. You can buy them on eBay. Air shocks are meant more to carry loads than to lift, plus it will ride like a empty dump truck.
dynchel- Donating Member
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dynchel wrote:I wouldn't. My recommendation would be to add spring spacers. Not the kind you wedge between the coils, but the kind that goes between the spring and rear end housing. You can buy them on eBay. Air shocks are meant more to carry loads than to lift, plus it will ride like a empty dump truck.
X2 Those spacers are real easy to install and do the job.
Joe73- Donating Member
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I disagree about air shocks riding like a dump truck, unless the shocks are aired up too much. I'm on my 4th El Camino (all G3s) and haven't had a rough rider yet.
One thing though, I did install some Gabriel air shocks once, and had to remove them because they were way too stiff. Not a good brand for our cars....worse than a dump truck...more like a farm wagon
One thing though, I did install some Gabriel air shocks once, and had to remove them because they were way too stiff. Not a good brand for our cars....worse than a dump truck...more like a farm wagon
pila- Donating Member
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OK fair enough, pila has a good point, However installing air shocks for the sole purpose of raising the ride height is silly (and kind of'70's hillbilly). On a elcamino where you might put something in the bed sure, i would say go with the air shocks. On a laguna (unless you carry a lot of weight) I would not use air shocks.
dynchel- Donating Member
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X3 for spacers. They sit in the space on the rear axle where the coil would normally be in. The bottom part of the coil goes on top of them. Various thicknesses are available so you can adjust the height pretty easily. Global West Suspension makes them for 73-87 Chevelle & El Camino in 1" & 1.5" for about $30.00/ea
http://www.globalwest.net/globalwestcoilspringspacers.html
Scroll down on the page- ours are on the right side of the page for rear coils.
http://www.globalwest.net/globalwestcoilspringspacers.html
Scroll down on the page- ours are on the right side of the page for rear coils.
77mali- Donating Member
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The shop told me that with the variable rate springs, the tension would still be on the springs not on the shocks. But I'll check into some spacers.
Shaunaconda- G3GM Member
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[quote="Shaunaconda"]If I want to raise the rear an inch or two, is it a matter of replacing the shocks or do I have to replace the rear springs too?[/quote
look into the station wagon springs, I don't think you'll be sorry !
look into the station wagon springs, I don't think you'll be sorry !
2fat2fly- Donating Member
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Wagon springs will definitely do it. Coupe springs lowered my wagon a good 1-1/2" and made it silly soft. So in reverse, it should give you some nice lift.
Brainstain- Donating Member
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I have a set of rear cargo springs that i removed from my car. here's a pic of it with them installed.
G3NUT- Donating Member
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I used the HD springs in my '74 Malibu when I restored it. Originals were quite sagged. It sits where it should now. Not sure how the standard springs height would have been, but maybe a bit lower (?)
pila- Donating Member
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pila wrote:I used the HD springs in my '74 Malibu when I restored it. Originals were quite sagged. It sits where it should now. Not sure how the standard springs height would have been, but maybe a bit lower (?)
It'd sit at the same height as it does now, just a lot more floppy action when working.
I do love the way the HD springs made mine feel, I loved the smooth stock ride, but always cringed when I saw a dip or bump in the road that I knew would really upset the car with the stock springs, even with great shocks on it. Now I don't worry as much as the suspension can soak up the impact quite well now.
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